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who is god? there are many religions.... the religion is some where the human
find peace... god isn't just coz there are many kids without food, many countrys
in war.... all time someone is murder.... but we find in god someone in whom
trusting
this pluralism religion thinking is not helping. to Find TrueReligion,you must
test it with other Religion. Only One Religion is Right. From They Meet Eac
other, Conflict Right and Wrong should be Appear. Who is All its Values are
Rght,that is True Religion. Even secular and atheist also religion, religion
createdby human minds.
True Religion never been produced by human minds and controlled by
man...
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Im a Pentecostal.. a born again christian....
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Im proud to be a Christian! coz Jesus is only the way the truth and the light!
WHoever calls in His name JESUS he/she will be save! are you saved?
not by other, but myself who help myself with Guidef God
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Do you think that God is just? Do you think that all he has done is fair to all
of us? Why? Do you think that God is good? If He is, why'd He created hell to
punish sinful people for eternity? Do you think that all that He has done is
good for everyone?
God test values- self in humans, which one is the best.
The best ofcourse is Maximum to reflect God as God.
Guide represent good for human itself not God, on contrary lost represent bad
and lose/opposite of profit for human itself.
sometimes,humans cannot catch the 'wiseness' of God@s command. they fell heavy
to carry that responsible.
but when human understand behind from it, they are going to undrstand what God
wants for goodness human itself, not God itself.
God wants all humans far from Him to come closer to Him, and bring them out from
darkness/completely shutness into Light.
Light and darkness, Guide and Lost,Softness and Angry,Closer and Far,...
Together make whole Full Viewing of God, where Guide BEAT Lost.
Both.
because they are different each other.
science is about advancement material living.
religion is advancement Living about human.
those who only hold religion and dony care science will be lost in competitive
world.
those who choose science and leave reliigion will live in abudance prosperity
material living but nothing value for him/her.furthermore he/she doesnt value
their ownself and lost the meaning of life.
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Aryan race is not a religion... still don\'t see that? I was stating that the
two world wars have nothing to do with religion...
but where greed desire to dominate other race who more animal came from?
religion system in germany in hitler ages ,is not sky religion.
it is system pagan religion who praise racism,bloody things,and evolution from
animal-always see human as animal
do you think this survival instinc not cause world wars,my dear?
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What the hell are you talking about... here's one thing... okay... I think...
that god is stupid... there, I thought of god... You seriously make no
sense...
I understand why are you like that.
because I know what you dont know in these.
I want share that knowledge later.
but one thing: it is imposible God become human and imposible too human can
become God.
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You sure? I see racism as everyone can inherit. Take an extremist, they're
religious, and yet they're racist.
there is no racist in religion.everyone are same. the difference is who is best
doings in God's viewing...
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Don't know what you just said there... unite what?
as one.
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You do realize that the two world wars has nothing to do with religion... When
christians dominate europe? You do realize there isn't really any peace in
europe... before the World Wars, there were a 50 year period... there weren't
any wars post-war from Napolean's reign... that's probably the longest peace
ever... especially during the 19th and 20th centuries...
no.
for those who one seek Greatness self.....
(ask hitler who see arya race is best)
wants to dominate other.
these brings into world wars.
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What the heck are you talking about... in you just listed the groups of
people... by the way sparta, athens, etc are all in greece thus they're
"greek". Also, fascism is just a governmental system... how the hell
is it anything to do with this...
Christian have religion essences? All those are from our emotions, has no such
from religion... religion regurgitate the obvious and adds a bunch of other
cru
you wrong.
history repeat itself.
they repeat again the faults of their ancestor.
go to library,and check...
they are same characteristics.
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Bit of an overstatement if you ask me. Just because Bush wanted to cater for the
more conservative Christians doesn't mean that they, by default, agree with his
pro-war attitude. Anyway, you don't have to be a Christian to have those
"essences", nor do you have to be a Christian NOT to have them. Those
are still the basic principles of Christianity, but also of probably every
religion. But so is it also of a-religious people.
What is "tauhid" by the way?
I am not christian.I am moslem.
Tauhid is There are No God other than God(Allahu)
Allah = HuwaAllahu La laha Illa Huwa
He is Allahu No Other God than Him
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Why are we here? We\'re just here by chance. We are naturally selected to
survive, and then, now, like every other species, we\'re here to breed to keep
the species alive. So, there you have it. We are here to have sex and reproduce.
Or, have sex and adopt... Or have sex and donor your sperm/eggs so someone else
can reproduce. That\'s what all living things are programmed to do.
Reproduce.
you are not evolution fan boys,arent you?
Evolution theory originated from paganism.
the one who reject all religion .
their characteristics : racism,love everything with bloody things,always see
human as animal not from creation from earth-gotten soul by God in heaven
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What the hell are you talking about... if we can\'t imagine, then why are a lot
of people keep saying he\'s all powerful and what not... your sense makes no
sense there...
oh.......honey
we are never able to think God (what God looks like because He is Most
Unreacable Most uncomparable).but Think Him in All His Creation.Think ! His
Presence in All His Qualities,HIs Names and Properties behind everything.
empirical and hidden (ghayb)
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Well, the thing is, we don't really know a lot about god to say anything about
him. We never met him, never seen him, and so on. I know what rising meant as a
prophet. He keeps turning to religion even though this topic should not have
anything to do with religion at the first part...
originally, i create this thread to tell you what religion viewing on
human,little by little.
but, i dont have much time,yet
Religion reject :racist,bloody things as scred,human as animal.
ths 3 things is pagan myths, bring human into destruction such bloody wars in
europe.
when christian dominate europe, this 3 has ben removed but not vanish. in 20th
century they explode! bring human into 2 world wars.
careful with evolution theory because they are unite.
in history, pagan civilization : ancient : sumeria,sparta,greek,
modern: facism,neo nazi,sadam-iraq(effects),etc
originally,christian have religion"s essences such :
love,saving,peace,humanity,etc even though they dont have tauhid anymore
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Society huh? How many animals have social groupings with a social structure
where the basic rule is do good for the group. I can think of about 15 off the
top of my head ranging from apes, monkeys, and wolves down to insects such as
ants and bees. Different groups can even get into fights over territory. How is
this different from human societies?
real true humanity-strongs dont eat the weak. but they are one big family.
Like Life in Rainforests.Everyone depends on each other.
like utopia,they dont have destructive energy, because they can use their energy
into goods like pursuing knowledge about self.
No one racist in tere.
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Well, at leats animals don't make weapon of massive destruction, like a nuclear
bomb, why humans always want to make something like that? why humans want to
conquer everything in their ways?
at least animals don't do that.
because humans have power,desire,and rational minds, also heart where
spirituality lives...
they have power to develop,or to destroy...
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Are you seriously that obsessed with religion... religion has nothing to do with
this actually... When you think about it, we were comparing animals and humans,
and now you just pop in religion that has nothing to do with
it.
please dont jump into conclusion so quickly.
There are so much I want tell you..
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I concur. Anyway, we were human before we "discovered"
religion.
religion is not invention
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With all due respect...things aren't that bad yet. A very dramatic, but
completely empty statement. Are you going to turn your back on this "animal
society" with all its technological perks and go live the life of a hermit
in some junle or on some mountain top just because of this "animal
society"?
Take a look at history for a change - human nature hasn't changed in 7000 years
of civilization. The whole point of civilization was to make nature liveable for
man - basically to create a safe base for man. Civilization is literally carved
out of nature. The only way to have avoided this was for the first Homo Erectus
to have been eaten by something big with many teeth and to have had the whole
ascendence of man stopped in its tracks.
I am sorry.
is not secular world animal society,is it?- no religion in there, if the
religion didnt exist they move their face into animal similarity life. because
they dont have fear and hope again into religion.
and religion? what religion can brng justice,can explain everything, can save
human from morality destruction like free sex,drugs,etc?
advancement in technology ,is only material aspect in human world.
We want to evaluate,how good their life,acting,minds,protection against
"low-desires",the abilities to catch hints light in the
life,etc.
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Yes, we may be animals at hearth, BUT NO, NOT ALL PROPHETS TURN TO LIES. I think
that what risingcrescent tried to say is that humans are the only animals who
searchs for the ultimate explanation of all things, and that has always drove us
to recognize a divinity, and an afterlife. (Don't hate me, DarkRosefromHell,
this is out of the topic, but to clearify risingcrescent point of view: a
prophet IS NOT SOMEONE THAT FORETOLDS THE FUTURE. A PROPHET IS SOMEONE WHO TALKS
ABOUT GOD AND SPREADS HIS WORD. So ANYONE who has a religion has the mission of
becoming a prophet. Like a cathequist).
to Follow and have similarity prophet ,precisely.
Animal persoalities in our heart could be destroyed if someone follow their
religion and prophet"s hints.
Because prophet represent divinity personalities and satan represent lost from
God .Desires are manifestation of satan. Animal desires/personalities are one of
it.
If you still sceptic, then try compare between prophet and satan/animal
acting-to prove what we talked right or wrong.
in future,you will be surprised.this light is really exist in beautiness
someone"personalities.
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How can you not see it, we're already like an animal society, we're destroying
our own world slowly and we aren't doing anything about it. How are we not that
different from an animal?
because,if we have true humanity society,current society cannot be called animal
society,can it?
you can try to find humanity society,....if you can.
but you only find that in religion that you reject...
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Emotions and feelings, yes they are pretty different, and how does a animal not
have those? A mother bear would care for their cub like a parent would with
their child. (not literally the same way)
I have said to you. Human and animals have similarity in some aspect, like
caring...
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aren\'t infinite possibilities, and also we\'re all animals at heart and all
prophets turn to lies.
when someone choose animal life than prophet life system. Then they would become
animal society...
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Stand in front of the mirror and you\'ll see one. In the most literal
sense.
by doing that,we only see our physical apperrance:)
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Humans stand on two legs while most animals don\'t (even monkeys still tend to
use their forelimbs to aid walking). Humans also possess the potential to
creative thinking and to better themselves. Animals don\'t.
Well, I have aaall my faith in Humanity, but I like animals better... I love
them! Humans are... more dangerous.
Well, I remenmber that good old Otto, a Phylosophy teacher at University, said
that some currents teach that the difference beteween Humans and animals is that
we, at about age 5 start having CONSCIUSNESS OF THE SELF.
yes,consciousness to AWARE what Realities covered from human
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Once you think about it, humans aren\'t really that different from animals.
Human like animals, both have emotions, though some display in it different
ways.
Humans are corrupt in a lot of ways whether you deem it or not. Just like an
animal would pursuit something non stop, a human would also
too.
really?
then why animals cannotdevelop science.cannot develop civilization?
we can determine what animals outcome /future.
but facing group human, we dont knwo what will they become. There are infinite
possibilities. They can become holy man like prophet, also they can become most
evil animal on earth.
the question is : do you want to become like animal or would you like to become
like prophet?
True essence of human is Soul.The Soul is Tree of Minds called Quran
ow,maybe he is busy.
but one good thing. I like peoplewho really think here
but for what purpose religion must be measured?
to control it and mass people in controlling by some elite class?
philosophy?
attractive, but very dry.Rare Lifes found in it. An Ambiguity of Empirical world and Sspiritual World.
do thinking, but not found true answer...
everything just fly on ground but cannot reach sky, even scarrier if philosophy doesnt step on earth...
have you ever falsified it?
this pluralism religion thinking is not helping. to Find TrueReligion,you must test it with other Religion. Only One Religion is Right. From They Meet Eac other, Conflict Right and Wrong should be Appear. Who is All its Values are Rght,that is True Religion. Even secular and atheist also religion, religion createdby human minds.
True Religion never been produced by human minds and controlled by man...
absolutely.
Religion is Light,Values of Life. Guidance to Walk Straight Path.
everyone without religion must be in empty narrow living
not by other, but myself who help myself with Guidef God
Reincarnation...
its imposible because none humans have power over their own soul.
are there anyone see their own creation...?
or can they create their ownself?, free from fate of God
God test values- self in humans, which one is the best.
The best ofcourse is Maximum to reflect God as God.
Guide represent good for human itself not God, on contrary lost represent bad and lose/opposite of profit for human itself.
sometimes,humans cannot catch the 'wiseness' of God@s command. they fell heavy to carry that responsible.
but when human understand behind from it, they are going to undrstand what God wants for goodness human itself, not God itself.
God wants all humans far from Him to come closer to Him, and bring them out from darkness/completely shutness into Light.
Light and darkness, Guide and Lost,Softness and Angry,Closer and Far,...
Together make whole Full Viewing of God, where Guide BEAT Lost.
Both.
because they are different each other.
science is about advancement material living.
religion is advancement Living about human.
those who only hold religion and dony care science will be lost in competitive world.
those who choose science and leave reliigion will live in abudance prosperity material living but nothing value for him/her.furthermore he/she doesnt value their ownself and lost the meaning of life.
Meaning of awareness their own value-self...
mireya is catholic. I am Islam.
we are have different viewing in some aspect,especially Viewing about God
what do you mean about lifestyle?
what connection from it about they reject God?.
but where greed desire to dominate other race who more animal came from?
religion system in germany in hitler ages ,is not sky religion.
it is system pagan religion who praise racism,bloody things,and evolution from animal-always see human as animal
do you think this survival instinc not cause world wars,my dear?
he he he
do you want proof...............?
I understand why are you like that.
because I know what you dont know in these.
I want share that knowledge later.
but one thing: it is imposible God become human and imposible too human can become God.
Because God is Most Uncomparable Most Unreachable
In Islam. Free will is given, but cannot negligible. they are asked to responsible their responsibility.
In other words,Free will is responsible things.
because free will is free to choose good or bad
even someone is not moslem,but they are bent down into Universal bent downing
there is no racist in religion.everyone are same. the difference is who is best doings in God's viewing...
as one.
no.
for those who one seek Greatness self.....
(ask hitler who see arya race is best)
wants to dominate other.
these brings into world wars.
you wrong.
history repeat itself.
they repeat again the faults of their ancestor.
go to library,and check...
they are same characteristics.
I am not christian.I am moslem.
Tauhid is There are No God other than God(Allahu)
Allah = HuwaAllahu La laha Illa Huwa
He is Allahu No Other God than Him
falling in love.........
scared......why?
You dont know how romantic I am honey .......
you are not evolution fan boys,arent you?
Evolution theory originated from paganism.
the one who reject all religion .
their characteristics : racism,love everything with bloody things,always see human as animal not from creation from earth-gotten soul by God in heaven
oh.......honey
we are never able to think God (what God looks like because He is Most Unreacable Most uncomparable).but Think Him in All His Creation.Think ! His Presence in All His Qualities,HIs Names and Properties behind everything. empirical and hidden (ghayb)
Idont think we can imagine God
so we cannot measure Him in equation
originally, i create this thread to tell you what religion viewing on human,little by little.
but, i dont have much time,yet
Religion reject :racist,bloody things as scred,human as animal.
ths 3 things is pagan myths, bring human into destruction such bloody wars in europe.
when christian dominate europe, this 3 has ben removed but not vanish. in 20th century they explode! bring human into 2 world wars.
careful with evolution theory because they are unite.
in history, pagan civilization : ancient : sumeria,sparta,greek,
modern: facism,neo nazi,sadam-iraq(effects),etc
originally,christian have religion"s essences such : love,saving,peace,humanity,etc even though they dont have tauhid anymore
real true humanity-strongs dont eat the weak. but they are one big family.
Like Life in Rainforests.Everyone depends on each other.
like utopia,they dont have destructive energy, because they can use their energy into goods like pursuing knowledge about self.
No one racist in tere.
because humans have power,desire,and rational minds, also heart where spirituality lives...
they have power to develop,or to destroy...
please dont jump into conclusion so quickly.
There are so much I want tell you..
religion is not invention
I am sorry.
is not secular world animal society,is it?- no religion in there, if the religion didnt exist they move their face into animal similarity life. because they dont have fear and hope again into religion.
and religion? what religion can brng justice,can explain everything, can save human from morality destruction like free sex,drugs,etc?
advancement in technology ,is only material aspect in human world.
We want to evaluate,how good their life,acting,minds,protection against "low-desires",the abilities to catch hints light in the life,etc.
to Follow and have similarity prophet ,precisely.
Animal persoalities in our heart could be destroyed if someone follow their religion and prophet"s hints.
Because prophet represent divinity personalities and satan represent lost from God .Desires are manifestation of satan. Animal desires/personalities are one of it.
If you still sceptic, then try compare between prophet and satan/animal acting-to prove what we talked right or wrong.
in future,you will be surprised.this light is really exist in beautiness someone"personalities.
because,if we have true humanity society,current society cannot be called animal society,can it?
you can try to find humanity society,....if you can.
but you only find that in religion that you reject...
I have said to you. Human and animals have similarity in some aspect, like caring...
when someone choose animal life than prophet life system. Then they would become animal society...
by doing that,we only see our physical apperrance:)
yeah, why?
yes,consciousness to AWARE what Realities covered from human
I want to write this later
really?
then why animals cannotdevelop science.cannot develop civilization?
we can determine what animals outcome /future.
but facing group human, we dont knwo what will they become. There are infinite possibilities. They can become holy man like prophet, also they can become most evil animal on earth.
the question is : do you want to become like animal or would you like to become like prophet?
I think thats not problem for @midnight if you want to ask question here.especially it refers to topic .
If we have question, I think we let it go at that time, if not -i dont think we will have same chance.